if you find yourself in times of trouble just remember that cap has a tactic where he basically throws himself in some guy’s arms while fighting
it got better.
I sort of want to write a gazillion-word essay about post-9/11 superhero movies, and the comparative attitudes towards surveillance and human rights violations espoused by, in particular, the Nolanverse Batman movies vs. The Winter Soldier.
Because on the one hand, you have films…
Or, why the National Review Online, bastion of conservatism, published not one but TWO reviews that were all but incoherent with rage about how horrible TWS was, and what it got wrong, and it was UNPATRIOTIC and UNTRUE TO THE SACREDNESS OF CAPTAIN AMERICA and similar bushwash. One of them said the movie was shallow, especially compared to the deepness and grandeur that was Man of Steel, which had my roommate (who trained as a philosopher) all but on the floor laughing.
She also said, and this is a quote, “They’re afraid of this movie.”
I think she’s right. Because for the first time since the Reagan administration, we have a patriotic character - the patriotic character, someone who is literally named after America and dressed in the national flag - who advocates not Rambo-style exceptionalism and beating the crap out of our enemies in a welter of blood and guts and cries of ‘MURICA while eagles scream overhead and fireworks explode, but collective action, openness, transparency, repudiation of the Cold War-style secrecy that allowed us to import Nazi scientists and intelligence agents into the very heart of our government, and laying down your arms in favor of winning over the enemy’s heart and mind.
It’s a powerful message, and one that flies against everything we’ve been taught, by the mainstream media and our popular entertainment, for over thirty years. And I think the reason it’s so popular is because deep down, we know better. We know that America at her best isn’t Rambo, gunning down enemies and howling about betrayal, but Steve Rogers appealing to the good in us all.
YES TO THIS COMMENT
remember that one time in the 80s when tony said betraying steve felt like digging his heart out with an ice cream scoop
I really admire the way the fandom has claimed Cap a a bisexual, but could we maybe do the same for Storm and Wolverine? Chris Claremont intended for them to be bi, and wrote them as such subtextually
What better way to practice some action poses and body shapes than drawing fan arts for an action movie? Ha, who am i kidding, I just wanna draw some fan arts for Captain America: The Winter Soldier! It’s great so go watch it if you haven’t already!
"Have you ever seen the research capacity of fandom? It’s incredible. Turns out [Steve Rogers] had Snickers and Hershey’s in the 1940s but he’d be pretty alarmed to find the kind of apples he used to eat are extinct and chickens are now three times as big. Turns out his sex education would be better than the kind in schools now, and that living through the Great Depression might put him into a state of grim nostalgia regarding the failures of the current banking system. Turns out Steve Rogers lived in a queer neighborhood, six blocks from an “artsy queer house,” and he wouldn’t say “under God” during the pledge of allegiance.”
Wrote about historical accuracy in the Cap 2 / CATWS fandom! Thank you sairobee, actualmenacebuckybarnes, historicallyaccuratesteve, and mswyrr for letting me use your art or fic, taking time to answer my questions, and being generally amazing!
So this happened. :D
Did they ever reveal how Captain America was thawed? Because I’m picturing a bunch of Shield agents with hair dryers and I don’t think that’s quite right.I don’t think they’d want to microwave him so hair dryer is really the only remaining option. That’s how I’d do it.badscienceshenanigansDo you have a sciency way to accomplish this task?
Well, let’s see.
To thaw a 1.5 metric ton colossal squid frozen in a block of ice (the only way the fishermen who trawled the thing in could bring it home before it went bad), scientists put it in a big vat of brine just above 0 Celsius/32F. That allowed the fresh water to melt while still keeping the squid as cold as possible. Essential, since for a giant corpse with tentacles, certain parts are bound to thaw days before others and could become quite rotten before the rest comes out of the ice block if you’re not careful.
HOWEVER Captain America was still alive, which complicates things. On the other hand, even supersoldiers are significantly smaller than this record-setting colossal squid. This helps thaw logistics somewhat.
Much like the squid, Captain America would have to be kept at a consistent temperature throughout his body in order to be thawed successfully. If his extremities were to thaw more than a minute or two before his heart and lungs were thawed and reactivated, the tissue wouldn’t have any oxygen and would quickly die. What a shame to bring back Steve Rogers only to have him be the poster boy for gangrene. Brain tissue becoming metabolically active before the cardiovascular system began functioning would be even more disastrous— possible permanent brain damage.
And the GH-325 project was born
To keep his temperature as equal as possible across his entire body, something like the squid brine or (more likely) an antifreeze solution would be used. Immerse the Capsicle in brine until the entire unit is within a degree or two of thawing* to begin Phase II.
*Note that due to presence of salts, fats, protein, etc, the freezing point of meat is actually 28-29F. Apologies to non-US readers, sadly I only work with American meat and don’t know the freezing point of corpses/beef in Sane Country Units. That being said, Steve Rogers is 100% American meat. Fahrenheit shall be considered the appropriate unit for this project.
At the thawing point, it’s important to consider life support functions. I don’t know how fast human tissue uses up oxygen at refrigerator-range temperatures, but I’m going to assume that the sooner you have oxygen circulating the better. A heart-lung machine would be needed to oxygenate and move the blood around for a while before the heart gets started back up.
Meanwhile, because Captain America’s last un-frozen moments were spent deep underwater, there may be decompression issues at play. Whatever gas bubbles may have been present in his tissue are currently frozen in place, but when he thaws they can move about and create embolisms —> the bends. Better put him in a hyperbaric chamber just in case.
Since Captain America regained consciousness in a recovery room rather than during the thaw process, it may be safe to assume that he was sedated and/or placed in a drug-induced coma during thaw.
So at this point we’ve got a giant bathtub of brine, a heart-lung machine, oxygen canisters, lots of drugs, plus all the necessary monitoring equipment all inside a hyperbaric chamber. After thawing the antifreeze bath could be replaced with gradually warming water or saline solution in order to bring Captain America back up to normal body temperature. So many machines! This is US medicine at its finest.
Forced warm air blowers (hairdryers) are needed after Captain America is fully thawed, organ systems are reactivated, and he is brought back to normal body temperature. At this point it becomes necessary to dry and style Captain America and put him in period-appropriate jammies to sleep it off in a vintage hospital room. If you think hearing the wrong baseball game tipped him off fast, you should see him wake up with bad hair.
THIS IS THE BEST POST IN THE HISTORY OF EVERYTHING.
That being said, Steve Rogers is 100% American meat. Fahrenheit shall be considered the appropriate unit for this project.
And this is the importance of representation, especially for young children.
It’s true. You guys should be nice to people who are old in spirit like Cap and me. Don’t make me get my cane.
ok legit my only complaint about cap 2
is that after steve says “if I run in these shoes, they’re gonna fall off,” we don’t see a scene where he has to run and trips over the shoes and kicks them off in frustration and starts running around in his socks
you could say it’s…my sole problem with the film
#i’m gonna need the 1000 fics of steve and natasha shoe shopping #she keeps wanting to buy him colorful expensive basketball shoes #he keeps gravitating towards the super boring looking ones #’they’re functional natasha!!!’ #’yeah if the function u want is everyone thinking ur a giant NERD’
What, are we taking everybody?
the reason that this line is significant is because jim morita was a japanese-american soldier. while it’s never explicitly stated, here’s what morita’s life would have been like before being captured by HYDRA:
- december 7, 1942: the empire of japan attacked pearl harbor. he was probably a soldier at this time since he was considered to be elite enough for steve’s squad; unknown where he served, although there were many japanese-american soldiers who died in and who were the first responders to the attack.
- december 8, 1942: the us declares a state of war with japan.
- all japanese-american men disqualified from the draft via the label “4-C,” or “enemy alien,” no matter their citizenry. all japanese-american men in the service are removed from duty.
- february 19, 1942: president roosevelt signed executive order 9066, authorizing the military to exclude certain groups from military zones.
- the fbi searched the homes of japanese-americans for “contraband,” including correspondence with anyone in japan such as personal letters. any such contraband is confiscated.
- (fun sidenote: how did they know where to find these people so that they could be harassed? well, gosh, the census bureau told them. illegally. no big deal.)
- community leaders, including priests, gathered up and sent to prison camps like tule lake. this is also where several families were sent to be deported to japan since they were not deemed loyal enough.
- 122,000 people of japanese-american descent are told to sell or store their property as they can only bring what they can carry out of the “exclusion zones,” which meant most of the west coast. (hawaii, whose population was about a quarter japanese, was for the most part not included in this.) given only a few weeks to organize their lives, they were then sent via cattle train to concentration camps set up throughout the us.
- since morita was from fresno, he would have ended up here:
- sunny poston, arizona. conveniently built on an indian reservation against the wishes of the tribal council, who wanted nothing to do with the government’s white supremacist bullshit. why only infringe on the rights and wishes of one minority group, right?
- choice quote: ”After fifteen months at Arizona’s vast Poston Relocation Center as a social analyst, Commander Leighton concluded that many an American simply fails to remember that U.S. Japanese are human beings.”
- shortly after arriving, all prisoners were asked to fill out a survey. most of the questions would be simple, like their name, city of birth, etc, but questions 27 and 28 were different.
- question 27: Are you willing to serve in the armed forces of the United States on combat duty, wherever ordered?
- question 28: Will you swear unqualified allegiance to the United States of America and faithfully defend the United States from any and all attacks by foreign and domestic forces, and forswear any form of allegiance or disobedience to the Japanese Emperor, or any other foreign government, power, or organization?
- did you answer yes to both? congratulations! you’re a soldier. did you answer no to both? perhaps you’re too old or sick to serve? perhaps the general fuckery of this entire situation got you down? perhaps you were born outside of the us, so you can’t disavow your country of origin since there is a very real chance you’ll be deported? haha well congratulations hope you like prison and/or deportation
- so all of this goes on
- and then morita goes on to serve
- and get captured
- and rescued
- and dumbass doogan says, “what, are we taking everybody?”
- fuck you
- i’m from fresno